events/2025-12-03-hwc-eastern
Homebrew Website Club - Eastern was an IndieWeb meetup on Zoom held on 2025-12-03.
- Archived from: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/2025-12-03-hwc-eastern
Participants
Joe Crawford https://artlung.com/
mandaris - https://mandarismoore.com/
Ross A. Baker - https://rossabaker.com/- Template:reed - https://reeds.website
- Template:btrem https://btrem.com
gRegor Morrill https://gregorlove.comThomas Vander Wal https://vanderwal.net
Tantek Γelik
Notes
- Welcome!
- https://www.htmhell.dev/ Advent Calendar! Manny shared that it's giving him joy this year
- First entry is popover
- https://artlung.com/mixtapes/ worked on Create Day to improve it
- Has transitions from a global set of transition code - Slick!
- Manny is working on search and transitions on his Hugo-based site
- Transitions on Joe's site as of today: https://gist.github.com/artlung/b5800168c3e197e09dd664c40c36643f
- https://blue.mackuba.eu/directory/pdses Directory of PDSes
- Joe discovered a "Fediverse" tab in Threads.
- https://www.recurse.com/ Recurse Center
- community, people apply to be part of it, 6-12 week retreat where you spend full time "working at the edge of your abilities" focus on learning and exploring technology; no money either way; pitch their recruiting services; associated with Y-Combinator somewhat
- Can't find a published schedule, but some Recursers appear periodically at https://meet.jit.si/RandomWalkHaskellTalk
- User:Xoxo.zone_@artlung (lattice of trust)
- Speaking of LLMs: large_language_model_traffic is a great page. Thanks Ross A. Baker for adding yourself to that page!
- Reed is working on a static site generator --
- TiddlyWiki it's been around a while...
- it was first popular because it all sits in a single html document, entries are called "Tiddlers" -- downloaded tiddlywiki is a single html file - it's the entirety of the wiki
- stored as html, operating system all in JavaScript
- Calling it "HTML Wiki" - source is markdown, html
- Reed is a fan of HATEOS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HATEOAS
- All driven by the server
- https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Reference/Elements/template
- Reminds me
- node backend with a few layers:
- webserver - transforms the request
- engine which executes the templating
- Today I learned TiddlyWiki can be thought of as a quine: https://tiddlywiki.com/static/Quine.html
- Tired of the mismatch between your templates and what produces them? Try a Lisp!
- In Scheme, Haunt is a static site generator: https://dthompson.us/projects/haunt.html
- The $10 word that helps with this is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homoiconicity
- XSLT is at least adjacent to this concept
- Sometimes this is too powerful.
- Functional programming talk, but a classic: "Constraints Liberate, Liberties Constrain" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqmsQeSzMdw
- The indiebookclub year in review page has started updating daily (and mostly worked automatically from last year, woo!) https://indiebookclub.biz/review/2025
- suggestion: IndieBookClub "Shelved" EOY reports per domain
- December Adventure https://eli.li/december-adventure
- Ross is doing that and is writing a Webmention sender and receiver
- Hashing URIs for deduping.
- Extra credit: normalize them first: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc3986#section-6
- Can our webservers treat each other respectfully?
- Lowest bar: can we treat each other more respectfully than LLM scraper traffic?
- On checking robots.txt, and in general: does it feel like the right thing to do?
- mention of thundering herd (Mastodon preview query slashdotting, I think remediated as of this meeting) on microcaching
Re "doof doof" and "oonce oonce", this site is unfortunately dead but works on Internet Archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20151226195116/http://www.oonce-oonce.com/
- https://tantek.com/daylists from tantek - make something good