events/2025-08-20-hwc-pacific
Homebrew Website Club - Pacific was an IndieWeb meetup on Zoom held on 2025-08-20.
- Archived from: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/2025-08-20-hwc-pacific
Participants
Joe Crawford
Thomas Vander Wal https://vanderwal.net
benji
Al Abut
Ross A. Baker - https://rossabaker.com/
Angelo Gladding- James (newcomer)
- Toso (newcomer)
Notes
- James working on an "ethical web co" alternative to the big sites
- Toso getting interested in being aware of time on the web
- Thesis big tech
- Thomas - python for analytics, php for web
- Benji mostly uses node
- Molly White's talk at XOXO in 2024 gets a lot at what's great about the idea of IndieWeb and owning your own site https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTaeVVAvk-c
- Data Science from Scratch 2nd Edition - https://learning.oreilly.com/library/view/data-science-from/9781492041122/
- Ross A. Baker added a new taxonomy, locations: https://rossabaker.com/locations/
- Gemini protocol)
- IndieWeb is tradeoffs between WordPress for 2009
- Entrenched PHP / WordPress
- Many choices to evaluate!
- Bear Blog, Micro.blog, WordPress, Hugo, Substack, Wix, Squarespace
How to choose right "right" stack?
- Be ready to ask the questions for what *your* needs are for *your* expectations for your website
- Hard to keep track of the capabilities of each platform and compare them fully
- Align our business needs
- Obsidian, Notion - absolutely ways to drive a website from it - content first, knowledge management
- Thomas: "It can be really important when selecting tools to first figure out how you're going to get out of it."
- Data portability: data_portability
Knowledge Management
- AppSheet ~ Google Sheets
- https://help.obsidian.md/bases
- Org mode. Pointy edges everywhere, severe learning curve, but it's all yours: https://orgmode.org/
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diary_of_Merer the oldest written documents are 4500 years old and essentially spreadsheets
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lascaux
- Spreadsheets and whiteboards are core to being a human being, maybe? (
- "Small apps, loosely joined." Data portability means you can use different tools optimized for various use cases, e.g. organizing in Obisidian while writing in IA Writer.
Dark Mode
- Dark Reader: https://darkreader.org/ - cross browser
- https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/darkreader/
- Noir (for Safari?) for iOS - https://getnoir.app
- Legibility issues, sliders
- Respect the user!
Tilde Talk
- https://tilde.club/~artlung/
- https://tilde.town/~rossabaker/ <- I'm HTML4, Joe is HTML2... I need to retro harder. awesome!!!
Swag
- Benji got the new shirt Nick designed (purple on black, really cool)
- https://cottonbureau.com/people/nick-simson
- swag
- https://www.nicksimson.com/posts/2025-indieweb-is-metal
- IndieWeb Carnival
IndieWeb_Movie_Club August Movie Intro - Local Hero - https://www.vanderwal.net/random/entrysel.php?blog=2128
- Newcomer James was working on his site and finding plugins - no big tech - Mastodon, IndieWeb plugin, IndieAuth
- Logseq https://logseq.com/
- Finding new ways to serve multiple formats from same source
- Web + org-social:
- Prior achievement: plain web and slides
- ZettelkΓ€sten was Michaels' route to the indieweb
- https://getdweb.net - DWeb
- https://www.inkandswitch.com/ local-first software development - network optional - resilency
- https://www.inkandswitch.com/local-first-software/
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conflict-free_replicated_data_type
- Ethersync: trying to make it editor-agnostic: https://github.com/ethersync/ethersync
- LA County Tree Map - https://losangelesca.treekeepersoftware.com/index.cfm?deviceWidth=1920
- a larger set of tree mapping options - https://trees-lacounty.hub.arcgis.com/pages/tools-&-resources