events/2025-12-25-create-day

Give the Gift of Create Day was an IndieWeb pop-up on Zoom held on 2025-12-25.

• Archived from: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/2025-12-25-create-day

2025-12-25 Give the Gift of Create Day

For the most part, the event will be people working on their sites. Normally, chat is done through the IndieWeb rooms, but we're recovering from a massive spam attack, so chat may be disrupted. The Zoom room will be live all day for people to work together, and before we close, to present/demo what they did.

Participants

• David Shanske
• Naty S
• mossymaker
• Tantek Çelik - hoping the Zoom re-opens!
•  Anthony Ciccarello
• Template:pierre
• Fractalkitty
• Al Abut
• Jeremy Cherfas
• ... add names

Working On

• David Shanske - Will be on periodically working during the 8 hour stretch
  • PRs sent by  Matthias Pfefferle for Indieweb Word/ClassicPress products and additional work in this area.

• Naty S
  • Quite excited to get Indiekit (a Node.js server for Micropub implementation) https://getindiekit.com/ almost working with my Hugo site. I'm just ironing out a few more last hurdles before running tests from https://micropub.rocks.

• mossymaker
  • Building an Ansible playbook for running multiple services with Podman
  • Based on https://github.com/Mati365/hetzner-podman-bunjs-deploy
  • Modifying to support 2 or more domains, DNS-01 ACME challenge

• Tantek Çelik
  • ✅ updating his https://tantek.com/daylists
  • ...

•  Anthony Ciccarello
  • Working on https://omnibear.com/

• Fractalkitty
  • working on my first hugo site - integrating numbers + python + hugo. I hope to have it be my journals central spot and a place for all the things that don't fit in on my other sites. Also - working on a post for toground.link and if I get time, I'll start porting over some p5js tools to typescript for runing a math seminar in the new year.

gRegor Morrill Working on some misc cleanup of the code and templates on my site.

• ✅ Calendar page https://gregorlove.com/calendar/ should use modern templating, same as my events page.
• Add a sitemap so I can get a better picture of all the top-level pages I have
• ...

Al Abut Working on replacing my RSS feed with a microformats one.

• Haven't found any good resources on reverse engineering an existing feed so that it doesn't break or repost everything, so I'm going to document my findings afterwards.

Jeremy Cherfas Wasn't able to contribute on the day, but I spent a restful hour in the morning crocheting abnother hyperbolic creature (more like a kelp blade) for my small but growing coral reef.

Notes

Discussed possible 2025 IndieWeb Hackathon plans

In general

• maybe a Zoom kickoff near the beginning of the month for folks to introduce each other, talk about their hack projects or offer help or ask for help with hack projects
• maybe a mid-month Zoom check-in
• wrap-up demo Zoom at end of month where everyone is invited to watch demos of hacks built during the month

When would be a good month for an IndieWeb WordPress Hackathon?

• David Shanske to talk with  Matthias Pfefferle
• recruit Ryan Barrett too

Pierre demonstrated a music thing!

Tantek Çelik is willing to host a late night continuation of Create Day if anyone is around / keeps the Zoom open long enough to hand-off

• Add yourself here… (see this for more details) if you're interested

• Ebird best practices: https://ebird.freshdesk.com/en/support/solutions/articles/48000795623#Include-in-your-list
• Site list: https://www.ciccarello.me/sites/
• Coypu (Nutria) https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/70771020

• svg word cloud https://banjomagpi.com/haiku/

Al Abut Had an Indieweb popup idea - zoom and/or blog series that interviews people, a la Manu's People and Blogs newsletter: https://peopleandblogs.com/

• Came up because I wanted to interview someone about their workflow, in a way that people could get their own questions in too, so it was a blend of directed at first and then collaborative, like a panel discussion or Q&A at a conference.
• Format: everyone is muted by default at the beginning except the moderator and guest, while people save their questions for the second part of the meeting.

• UPDATE: Al Abut is currently stalled out on his Create Day project :(
  • Trying to replace my RSS with microformats+Granary
  • The goal is recreate exactly the XML that is currently live, so that feed readers don't break or duplicate.
  • Prototype page for the h-feed and h-entries is here: https://alabut.com/projects/microformats/mainfeed/static/
  • Ignore the ugly layout, it's just meant to be a test of the underling HTML.
  • Running it through Granary creates this XML: https://alabut.com/projects/microformats/mainfeed/rss-current-granary.xml
  • Unfortunately it doesn't use the p-summary element of h-entry posts and shoves all the e-content into the <description> instead of <content:encoded> like expected.
  • The XML structure I'm trying to recreate is this one from my live RSS file: http://alabut.com/rss.xml
  • Any help or tips would be greatly appreciated!
• UPDATE 2: I couldn't debug how to get Granary to do the right thing with RSS, but it looks like it outputs Atom with the correct data and that using that instead would work. I've tested the above sample page and it handled summaries vs content correctly, so that's my new path forward for swapping out my current XML output.
• gRegor Morrill: I'll try to look at this more over the weekend. There might be a bug to file on Granary for RSS conversion.
  • quick notes before I forget: The RSS2 element is `description` and that's where the contents of the post should go. I don't believe RSS2 has a `content` element, though that might be from an earlier version of RSS? I'm not immediately sure where the `content:encoded` element comes from that appears in https://alabut.com/rss.xml
  • As far as I can tell, <content:encoded> is a pretty common extension but yeah, the RSS spec is a mess. Seems like RSS won the popularity war while Atom won the standards one.
  • UPDATE 3: I got it working! Switching from RSS to Atom as the output gives me full content posts that I can test out in Monocle, like so: https://monocle.p3k.io/preview?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgranary.io%2Furl%3Finput%3Dhtml%26output%3Datom%26url%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Falabut.com%252Fprojects%252Fmicroformats%252Fmainfeed%252Fstatic%252F
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